Anti Social Planets

Anti Social personality types are defined by behaviours where breaking the rules is apparent. Whether these type of behaviours are classified by criminal acts (law breaking) or by clever con man tactics there are planets in the horoscope which can help outline Anti Social tendencies. The anti social personality type has a great capacity to be successful in society however there seems to be a fine line in becoming notorious for harming others too.

Dog (Duane) Chapman, once Sergeant at Arms of a bikie Club and prison Inmate, now Bounty Hunter and Rehabilitation role model

The Bounty Hunter as seen on tv is perhaps an example of a true anti social personality type using his ingenuity and creative abilities to achieve great success for himself. Dog Chapman has somehow been able to flip from his law breaking status to working alongside the law. His newest career is perhaps the closest he might get to being an actual law enforcement officer. Dog was born 2nd February 1953 in Denver Colorado. His Aquarian Sun is conjunct Mercury and the Node and square Jupiter. Sun Square Jupiter is renown for excessive behaviours and egotistical pursuits.

A private conversation between ‘Dog’ Chapman and his son was captured and obtained exclusively by the ‘National Enquirer’. This tape has exposed ‘Dog’ Chapman using the “N” word and admitting to using the word in his job. Was his use of the word in this conversation grounds for removing his show? For now the show has been suspended.

Of course it is not unusual for anti social types such as bikie gang members to be involved within the security industry. Actors have also become renown for drug use and breaking the rules.

Stacy Keech arrested for cocaine

Stacy Keech played the detective in the popular tv series Mike Hammer. Keech was arrested in 1984 along with his secretary for cocaine importation. Stacy Keech has Jupiter-Uranus-Saturn conjunction. In my view Saturn and Uranus aspects can be an indicator of the anti social personality type however there are other planetary considerations too. Keech’ birth time is 2nd June 1941 7:15 pm Savannah, Georgia.

Christine Keeler spent time in jail for perjury

Christine Keeler is well known for her role in the extraordinary Profumo Affair. Her chart supports the Saturn Uranus combination along with Moon Mars in the mix. The fixed star of Algol which tends to add a degree of sexual intensity is conjunct her moon. 22 Feb 1942 London 11:15 am

Bill Clinton is renown for his lying and anti social tendencies with regard to his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Bill Clinton has Mars Neptune conjunct ascendant in his chart. Venus the ascendant ruler is also square his Saturn Uranus midpoint.

Dennis Rodman the anti social sportsman

Dennis supports the Mars Neptune aspect for anti social types however, Saturn Uranus midpoint is conjunct his Mid Heaven and Neptune.

Ronald Isley from the Isley Brothers band spent some time in jail for tax evasion. He supports the Saturn Uranus combination for anti social tendencies. 21st May 1942 Cincinnati 7 25 am.

Police beating of Rodney King inspired anti social riots

Rodney King has been arrested for spousal abuse DUI, possession of the drug PCP, indecent exposure and speeding. Rodney might best be remembered by the riots in Los Angeles following his beating by several policemen.

Rodney King has the unique planetary aspects common to those born in the 1965 era. It would seem logical for the astrology of this particular year in time to show anti social tendencies in ones personality. The sixties was all about rebellion and anti establishment behaviour.  Perhaps the aspect Saturn opposite Uranus in that year combined with Mars Pluto as shown in Rodney King’s chart is representative of  the ‘abused’ and the ‘perpetrator’ in his situation.

Erica Jong is a novelist and social worker. She had several marriage failures which she ultimately used for her own means of self discovery.  It has been reported that her style of writing has broken boundaries of traditional narratives which state that ‘affairs’ lead to disaster. Erica Jong supports the Saturn Uranus conjunction in her natal chart.  26 March 1942 10:25 Manhattan NY. Saturn-Uranus is indicative of breaking traditional boundaries.

Alan Okens very good book “Complete Astrology” says about Saturn square Uranus “this is the type of individual who rebels against all forms of established law and is usually resistant to the pressures of authority. Like the conjunction, it is an extremely touchy aspect and can even be violent with Mars, Pluto or Sun involved.”

He sums the Saturn Uranus connections up by saying “A law unto myself”.

Saturn Uranus People

Many people going into the armed forces may have the Saturn Uranus configuration. It makes sense that if one becomes familiar with bucking the authority as a means to operate in life, they would most likely thrive in the armed forces. That type of occupation also tends to create a sense of authority for the person at the same time.  So does the anti social person wish to become an authority? Or will they continue breaking  the rules? Its ok to find creative and positive outcomes from ones rebelious perspectives. There is an interesting blog post called “I am what I try not to be” which explores contradictory aspects of personality and behaviours.

Saturn Uranus People

  • Winston Churchill
  • Charlie Sheen
  • Errol Flynn
  • Bob Hawke
  • Jeff Fenech
  • Mel Gibson
  • Kevin Rudd
  • OJ Simpson    Saturn Uranus midpoint = Sun
  • Clint Eastwood
  • Billy Graham
  • Hugh Hefner
  • Jimi Hendrix
  • Sir Jo Bejelke-Peterson

Other chart configurations representing the anti social personality can include:

Angular Mars (in some cases only)

  • Donald Trump
  • Earnest Hemingway
  • Harry M Miller (tax evasion)
  • Bill Clinton

Sun Saturn or Midpoint Saturn Uranus = Sun

Sun-Saturn people usually have critical fathers or experiences which involve traditional upbringing. There can be chart significators which show ways they may find release from such authoritative conditions. In many cases the Sun Saturn person gravitates towards authoritative positions in life or rebels against that position.

  • Azaria Chamberlain
  • Barry Humphries
  • Jimmy Hendrix

Mars Neptune

  • River Pheonix
  • Jim Bakker
  • Charles Manson
  • Willie Nelson
  • Michael Caine
  • David Parkin
  • Tony Modra
  • Evel Kneivel

Venus at the Mid Heaven can also represent the “Con Man”. The used car salesman or financial consultant selling something that he or she knows is going to benefit by. The anti social person however is the person who doesn’t care what happens to others in their dealings. They will get what they want even if that results with devastation for the buyer.  You might like to read this blog about anti social types, adversarial transference and the Sopranos.

Kingsley

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14 Responses to “Anti Social Planets”


  1. 1 Doreen August 17, 2008 at 22:54

    Very interesting and informative post, Kingsley. Thank you. I’ve long wondered what the astrological signature for an antisocial personality is. What tips a troubled person, e.g., someone who is perhaps rebellious or hostile, over into the antisocial, i.e., without remorse or conscience, a law onto oneself? Saturn-Uranus makes sense and you’ve presented an abundance of examples. Decades ago I had a close acquaintance who was definitely in the antisocial category. He has Saturn closely conjunct the Ascendant square a Mercury-Uranus opposition on the MC/IC. Mercury rules his Virgo Ascendant. Additionally he has Mars conjunct Moon in Aquarius opposite Pluto, which made him particularly dangerous, a lot of rage and very forceful and willful. His response to any confrontation concerning his behavior was “might is right.” He took great offense at any injury, however slight, done to him and demonstrated no remorse concerning injuries he inflicted on others.

  2. 2 kingsley August 17, 2008 at 23:20

    Hello Doreen, that is a very good example you state in your comment. In some respects the Moon Mars or a Moon Jupiter in the chart can represent either the working mother or smothering mother respectively. It is said with anti social types that the mother invites the boy to please her or be happy for her. The Father is usually absent or quite traditional in his parenting styles. Its within the framework of child development that a person develops certain personality traits.

    Of course there is the Anti Social personality Disorder too. It would be good to see a few personal charts of these types. I have a few like yourself, but prefer to use other examples. Thanks for commenting

    kingsley

  3. 3 a. August 18, 2008 at 15:58

    With Mars Neptune aspects — even the trine do you see as leading towards anti-social? I ask of course because i have a mars neptune trine!

  4. 4 kingsley August 18, 2008 at 16:22

    Hi A, me thinks Mars Neptune means a few things and includes the way certain energies are dissolved by the Neptunian. In some cases Mars (energy) goes into the surreal (Neptune) and can be a very creative process such as visualizing. If one drew a time line in their life for Mars Neptune meanings perhaps earlier on it might relate to less assertiveness however later in life that same aspect might mean creative work.

    I wouldn’t be classifying the trine in anti social categories because it is not enough on its own. There is also a continuum or degrees in which these things work or get set off by various aspects. Anarchy is another Neptunian trait when combined with the Sun. I guess in a way that process is somewhat anti social or rebellious behaviour at least.

    I would have to view your chart to really get an idea. I think I researched about 200 charts for the blog and focussed on these couple of significators that I have come to know over the years.

    kingsley

  5. 5 Claire - AstroRevolution August 22, 2008 at 00:30

    Hi Kingsley – interesting post. I think the Saturn/Uranus aspects – as you have demonstrated quite well – are a good example of this type of behaviour. Also note that the Saturn/Pluto (square/opposition) aspects can also be another astrological signature for ‘anti-social’ behaviour – Claire

  6. 6 kingsley August 22, 2008 at 07:21

    Good point Claire, I know the saturn-pluto type quite well and I think you raise another factor in this anti social signature. I came across a few saturn pluto examples however in the back of my mind I was keeping this combination for the Borderline types and politically obsessive.

    best
    Kingsley

  7. 7 roses August 26, 2008 at 09:15

    Rodney King’s is like… 3D. It kind of stands out when I look at it. Clever.

    roses

  8. 8 Donna Cunningham September 4, 2009 at 22:36

    I love this article! What appeals about it is many of these folks are the people we love to hate…or at least that we hope get their comeuppance one day. Did you see the celebrity series on Donald Trump’s Apprentice this summer. Dennis Rodman was one of the contestants and an absolute nightmare for his team. He did virtually nothing and would go out drinking while supposedly working on a team assignment–then if they insisted he do something, he’d walk off in disdain. Donald kept letting him get away with it, but in the end they all confronted him and he went off to rehab.

  9. 9 kingsley September 5, 2009 at 12:00

    No, I didnt see the Apprentice show Donna. But if that helped to generate some hits I dont have any complaints. There have been a great deal of interest in the article from many syndicated sources.

    I would imagine Roddman has a great fan base of antisocial people. Perhaps people in the justice system have frequented this blog too?

    Its great to see astrology in “action” dont you think. There is a footballer down here Donna who has had vast media coverage over the years in relation to his drug addiction and his struggle returning to pro football.

    People love the idea of having a second chance in life, it does tend to create a socially black and white division between “haters and lovers”.

    kingsley

  10. 10 kingsley September 5, 2009 at 13:10

    The number of visits for this blog seemed to peak in Jan, Feb and March of 2009.

    k

  11. 11 Donna Cunningham September 5, 2009 at 16:49

    Really? That peak might be explained by people staying home more in winter, especially given the dark nights. I do notice that I get a lot more hits on weekends, probably because people have more time to spend reading things on the web in a leisurely fashion.

  12. 12 kingsley September 5, 2009 at 17:35

    I read that Roddman was “fired” from that show around 31st March 2009 so perhaps you are right about that peak during the tv show Donna. I guess it depends on when the show was on air for many people?

    24,000 hits between Febuary and March.

    kingsley


  1. 1 Astrology Around The Web » Blog Archive » Anti Social Planets by Kingsley Trackback on August 17, 2008 at 21:07
  2. 2 Racismo nos states - parte 1: Carta de um leitor do The New York Times em 1992 sobre o caso Rodney King - AglioEoliO Homepage Trackback on April 15, 2009 at 02:40

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